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Republican Budget to Wolves: Drop Dead

Andrew Wetzler

Posted February 12, 2011

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Member of the Rose Creek Pack (Barry O'Neil, NPS 1995)Last night the Republican controlled House Rules Committee released a “continuing resolution” to fund the federal government past March.  As I thought, the bill contains cuts to funding for endangered species (for those of you following at home, see section 1704).  But it goes far beyond that.

The Committee has decreed, without a hearing and in defiance of the best and most up-to-date science, that wolves will lose all of their Endangered Species Act protection in Idaho, Montana, and parts of Washington, Oregon, and Utah (section 1713).  The bill reinstates a plan that would legally allow states to kill all but 300 wolves in the Northern Rockies, a number that is not sufficient to sustain wolves over the long term. More than 1,700 wolves now roam the Northern Rockies.  That means those who support this provision are content to see as much as 82% of the population wiped out.

How is this possibly related to the budget of the United States of America?  When the Republican Party swept to power last November the repeatedly promised a new day--a day in which, among other things, budget bills would no longer contain extraneous policy provisions inserted to avoid the normal legislative process.  In their words: “We will end the practice of packaging unpopular bills with ‘must-pass’ legislation to circumvent the will of the American people. Instead, we will advance major legislation one issue at a time.” It looks like that new day doesn’t include wolves.

We need to fight this provision.  Stand up and be counted here.

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Penelope RyanFeb 12 2011 06:38 PM

Any excuse they can give to wipe pout the wolves and other wild life. This administration has no respect for this nations wildlife. Kill, kill, kill.

Violet Rose REkiFeb 12 2011 10:08 PM

This Country the US is becoming as Barbaric as it accuses other countries of being. They are only doing it right now at present with poor defenses wildlife animals. When will they start doing this to the people? This wolf killing must STOP!!! All animal killing here should stop; you're wiping out entire species. It's just wrong, plain out and out wrong.

Marc CookeFeb 12 2011 11:33 PM

I agree with the two prior comments. At the beginning of the Obama administration I had so much HOPE! That hope has been destroyed by the very administration I helped get into office. Obama....what a disappointment!

Audrey ElicerioFeb 12 2011 11:41 PM

Get out of your city bound insanity and GO to the wild places!! Quiet the insane voices in your heads, and LISTEN to the silence.... to the wolves....the eagles, the animals......find your souls again and do whatever is in your power to preserve their homes and lives!! Then and only then will you be taking steps to save yourselves as well..... because without them, we are nothing...

Lynda HardingFeb 13 2011 02:14 AM

Soon there will be no wildlife they are slowly wiping every one of them out. Wolves mostly. They are beautiful animals just want to be left alone. America is getting to be like the other countries that hunt down wildlife.

Miriam FridrichFeb 13 2011 04:10 AM

Be smart and do not kill wolves.

Ann SydowFeb 13 2011 09:01 AM

I am sick to death of cruel and heartless politicians who think nothing of whimsically voting in a law that would mean painful deaths to the wild ancestors of their very own companion dogs.

Diane BentivegnaFeb 13 2011 09:50 AM

The Obama Administration is a dismal disappointment to all those hard working people who got him is present job. He can rest assured that he will NOT have my support if he chooses to, once again, sell himself out to the highest bidder and run for president again. Wildlife belongs to AMERICA. I want public lands and the wildlife that roam it freely PROTECTED from the special interests (livestock, hunters, etc.) that buy politicians.

Ralph MaughanFeb 13 2011 10:43 AM

As an Idahoans who gets no representation out of our U.S. Representatives, thank you for supporting the Endangered Species Act and particularly, wolf restoration.

I live in Idaho because of the vast open and wild places. It seems the Republicans care nothing for this, nor, unfortunately, does the President.

Sky TilleyFeb 13 2011 11:36 AM

The wolves are our brothers. Why deny our brother? Please save our wolves.

Joan SimmermanFeb 13 2011 01:21 PM

If this bill is passed it will men the end of the wolves in this country and leave the door open to take other animals off of the endangered species ist. So wrong.

Barbra BussellFeb 14 2011 03:19 PM

We do not need the wolves delisted or killed. Please see it from our vew point. Wolves are a veryimportant part of our ecosystem.
So please do not give into the lies you were told about them.

Bob FanningFeb 15 2011 09:55 PM

environmentalists have been willing to risk a range war over wolf delisting , now they have it and their response is to do what they do best.......... whine

Jaana JaakkolaFeb 16 2011 12:00 PM

Stopp killing a very important animal, who belongs to nature!!! (more than we humanbeens!!)
We have let naturens own laws do the right thing. Stopp this horrible slaughter of Wolves!!!

H HollonFeb 16 2011 07:15 PM

How can the committee do this without a hearing and against all the scientific studies that were done on this??? I can't believe that they would make these changes against all the information to the contrary that they have on the subject. Well. when do we all vote again??? We must remember who voted for this and who didn't. Maybe that will change their minds.

TammyFeb 16 2011 08:21 PM

Stop Killing Wolves

CINDY COLLIERFeb 17 2011 11:18 AM


Bruce HemmingFeb 18 2011 12:35 PM

Funny reading the misinformation about wolves. Wolves are slaughtering off the elk like mad. In the LoLo zone in Idaho the wolves have killed off 90% of the elk herd 20,000 awesome elk slaughtered down to 1700 BY WOLVES. You folks that claim to love wildlife need to learn the truth the wolves are the worst ecological disaster to our wildlife in the last 100 years.

ScottFeb 18 2011 12:58 PM

Above all, the Zero Liability Participants are ramming their agenda to destroy hunting down our throats. The emotionally intoxicated urbanites ignore sound science, and replace it with the fraudulent science that advances their agenda. Wolf introduction was scientific fraud, and the NGO's funnel billions of dollars to individuals who advance their game. This entire wolf debate is a scam, and most of the pro wolf cult fall in lock-step, ignoring the destruction of our wildlife, and Western Culture. Wolf cultism is alive and well, and Organizations like Defenders of Wildlife use them as pawns in the game for nothing more than a money supply for the elites.Wake up! You have been the victim of a scam, and your participation is destroying wildlife on a scale that is unimaginable. Yellowstone National Park is becoming a Biological Desert, and those of you who push the wolf agenda are responsible.

Yellowstone is Dead!

ben lindgrenFeb 18 2011 01:11 PM

I don't get it! You people call yourselves pro wildlife, but in reality you are only pro wolf! You are not even educated enough to speak out on this issue! you stand behind a protesting sign and claim you know all about scientific research. Well, let me tell you something. I speak for myself as well as other sportsman when i say." my research has been done by the worn out pair of hiking boots i just through out, and all the others before." Taking a bite out of a granola bar once a month on the side of a public trail does not make you a scientist, nor does it make you educated on this subject!

Billjo BeckFeb 18 2011 01:24 PM

You know, I got to tell you....That 300 number that supposedly not enough wolves. That is the NUMBER All you Wolf lovers and USFWS guys Agreed on in 1995. So, Quit moving the goal posts. Another thing. Did you know a Wolf was shot in 2009 in our legal Wolf hunt that had a Collar from WY that had died. These Wolves travel Great distances. Stop Lying. This is what the Sportsman are Tired of. When this started The Pro Wolf people said they (wolves) wouldn't damage our Elk herds. Now, 6 cow Zones are in trouble, and 9 Bull zones. That is OVER half the State of Idaho. According to the Pro Wolf side, This is about kicking Rancher's off of Public Lands.
And another thing I gotta point out here folks. ONLY through sales of HUNTING Licenses and Tags does the Conservation happen in the state of Idaho. So, No hunting Elk or Deer, No Fish and Game and NO Conservation in the state of Idaho. Why do you PRO WOLF people HATE our Elk and Our deer so bad here? Why do you guys Hate RANCHER'S so bad Here? You people are an Embarrassment to the human race. When an ANIMAL has more Value then a Human life.

Robert MillageFeb 18 2011 01:26 PM

300 wolves was the original # called for by biologist when the wolf introduction was planned. How is this # to low, when the scientist determined that it was the proper # for the ecosystem to sustain..and now we have up to 10 times that # and the enviros continue to waste our time and money in courts, allowing the mass destruction of other wildlife as the wolves wipe out whole elk herds that took over 100 years to build and restore.....lies, deceit and corruption, that is what environmentalist spread, they care nothing about truly saving wildlife, only furthering their twisted agendas and filling their bank accounts through fear mongering and lining the pockets of their attorneys with tax payer $'s via frivolous lawsuits.....

Wayne HammondFeb 18 2011 01:34 PM

It is time to stop the false science and playing God by trying to establish a non-native species into an invironment that is not adapted to an apex predator of this magnitude!
Why is it that people who never step foot in the wilds of the west try to make all the decisions about what happens here?
The whole permit process to allow wolves into the area was illegal and should never have happened, now it's time to right a great wrong!!

Ken MurrayFeb 18 2011 01:34 PM

That breed of wolf is not native to our area, and it was rammed down our throats illegally by some people that all should be jailed. They have already set back our elk and moose populations to the point they may never recover in some places. Kill all of them as far as I'm concerned. I know I'll do my part.

JaniceFeb 18 2011 05:12 PM

Stop letting wolves kill off livestock, Stop just letting them endanger commnities, Stop ruining lifestyles and livlihoods. Stop allowing animal activism to take the place of human activism.
We are in a economic society that is very precariously balanced at the moment and this type of bureaucratic bumbling and judicial activism advocating massive amounts of predatory animals to slaughter private property and public game with virtually no control leads me to believe there is a conspiracy to remove food sources in our great nation and this program has become a part of that. When did it become so popular to be anti-human?

Todd FrossFeb 19 2011 08:42 AM

Environmentalists run on money , not values , if they had to pay what it really costs, there wouldn't be any such animal as an Environmentalist . Those "Who Do Pay" ! are those that actually produce something, actually own something and actually do care .....and that is who Environmentalism seeks to destroy ! Make no mistake it has never been about the Environment , it has always been about "Takings" , Environmentalists want what you have and only one thing will stop them, "They will never spend their own money to do it.....if they can't write it off , it won't happen .As the Govt bows out of this fiasco Wolves will have to be funded by Greenies and they won't do it , they love their money more than anything!

Matt SkoglundFeb 19 2011 01:36 PM

Regarding the Canadian wolf myth, the border between Canada and the United States is nothing more than a political boundary. There’s no wall, no ocean, no natural divider between the U.S. side of the Northern Rockies and the Canadian side of the Northern Rockies. Wolves, like other wildlife, do not carry passports or recognize political boundaries. They have wandered north and south for millennia. In fact, after we wiped out wolves from this region by the 1930s, gray wolves from Canada began naturally re-colonizing the American side of the Northern Rockies in the 1980s. The Northern Rockies are the Northern Rockies. The wolves that were trapped in Canada in the mid-1990s and then reintroduced in Yellowstone and central Idaho were gray wolves from the Northern Rockies – no different than the gray wolves of the Northern Rockies that roamed these parts before we exterminated them in the name of progress.

For some perspective on wolves and elk, see here:

As for the federal recovery goal of 300, that outdated objective was set by the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service in 1987. It says that 300 wolves in the Northern Rockies constitutes a fully recovered population. That goal is scientifically unjustifiable, and, if left in place, it will doom wolf recovery in the region. Let's get a scientifically credible "floor" in place for the population, and then let's let the states manage the wolves above that number. Without such a floor in place, there's nothing to prevent the "management" of the old days from returning, and that would be tragic. For more, see here:

Finally, disagreement is fine and can be healthy for meaningful discussion, but let's try to keep it civil.

Bob FanningFeb 20 2011 06:08 PM

"outdated objective" SUBJECTIVE and after the fact of 3 state management plans.

"it will doom " unproven assertion

scientifically credible "floor" was established in " wolf implimentation rules of Nov 18, 1994." for this Non Essential Experiment

No new trems , standards and conditions for newbie eco lawyers trying to keep the game going.
The "deal" is done.

Ken MurrayFeb 20 2011 06:38 PM

Comment removed. We're pleased to debate any topic we write about — but not when you choose to be vulgar and disrespectful. Ian @ NRDC

Jeremiah PopeFeb 20 2011 07:39 PM

There is no way to explain this to the people on the outside, the time has come to rage a war on the wolves and regain control. I don't see what is so hard to understand about this, look at some facts people! These wolves are devastating the elk, deer, and moose in the Northwest. That is as simple as it can be put.

Todd MaltaisFeb 20 2011 07:50 PM

I am truly amazed to see so many comment on wolves who know nothing about them. 16 years of proof on the ground in ID, MT and Wyoming with wolves decimating wildlife and livestock, and some still don't see what an unmanaged wolf population has caused. With an over population of wolves in the end you will have NO other wildlife, sounds to me like they would trade all wildlife for the wolves. Maybe the only wildlife they see is what comes on the NG or Discovery channel. Perhaps they don't live in wolf country and they will never have to deal with wolves killing their livestock or have any fear of wolves attacking themselves or their children. In Arizona cages have had to be built for children to wait for the school busses in, because of the USFWS's ill-bred Mexican wolves. How many people will need to be killed by wolves in order for people to see that wolves are not cuddly. If that isn't enough there are over 30 deseases that wolves carry and spread that are very harmful to people and livestock. What part of an unmanage wolf population is good? I think it is too late for wolf management, do to the ambition and greed of the environmentalists the wolves have caused unprecedented damage and the public tide has turned against them. The sensible and responsible management that could have been will never be.

Bruce HemmingFeb 20 2011 07:58 PM

Matt please tell us what corrupt preserve science are you following. The one that ignore the rest of the eco system and only cares about wolves? The one base on exposed lies. Nope wolves are here for 3 main reason will 4 if you count the greedy eco Nazi lawyers and crybabies getting rich off the wolves. The number 1 reason to bankrupt 30,000 ranchers I guess you want to starve us out right Matt. 2. To wipe out the big game doing a darn great job on that Matt that would be called a documented fact. 3. Drive rural Americans off the land. Anything else about wolves is just misinformation lies to keep the golden cash cow pouring money in

Jim SpielmanFeb 20 2011 08:05 PM

So...let me get this straight, the feds drop in a bunch of wolves into Yellowstone, not the timid Timberwolf but the the great white north wolf and they kill 80% of the elk in Yellowstone, spread out and reak havoc on Idaho and Montanas elk, moose and deer populations and there are still people out there that dont want them killed? It is a FAILED exparement!!!! To the people that live amungst them it s the biggest ecological disaster North America has ever seen and some dumb as**** still dont want them killed? How stupid is that? What the heck are you waiting for, jids to get eaten???? What is wrong with these people? Its a damn wild dog that is out of control! It is breeding at 4 times the rate the gov said it would! The population is way over what they wanted and some of you freaks still dont want them shot!!! How dumb is that, wake up people!!!! Ken has it right!!!

Ian @ NRDCFeb 20 2011 08:20 PM

Okey-doke, that's enough obscenity and ad hominem attack for one day. I think it's pretty clear we've come to the end of productive discussion on this post, and I'm locking the thread. There will be plenty of future opportunities to pick up the debate.

For those who'd like to learn more about NRDC's position on this issue and the science and law that support it, I encourage you to read back through the many lucid explanations that Andrew, Matt, and Sylvia have posted.

- Ian @ NRDC

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